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Although this is an issue i have seen previously here I could not find an answer to my specific doubt.
There is a priest in my town, to whom I have confessed a few times, and, for what I recall, he does not impose any penance (at least for me he didn't). Knowing that there is a need for a penance as a "repair" (sorry if that's not the proper word) for the sins I commited, is it wrong if I go to confession with this priest again? Should I look for another priest to make a confession?
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Although this is an issue i have seen previously here I could not find an answer to my specific doubt.
There is a priest in my town, to whom I have confessed a few times, and, for what I recall, he does not impose any penance (at least for me he didn't). Knowing that there is a need for a penance as a "repair" (sorry if that's not the proper word) for the sins I commited, is it wrong if I go to confession with this priest again? Should I look for another priest to make a confession?
A lot of priests here don't give confession. Some don't give confession, and sometimes, since they are so overburdened, I think they just forget.
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Once the priest did not impose a penance, so I did my own. If it was a regular practice of a priest not to give a penance to do, I would have to ask him about it.
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Knowing that there is a need for a penance as a "repair" (sorry if that's not the proper word) for the sins I commited, is it wrong if I go to confession with this priest again?
Strictly speaking, it's not wrong. IIRC the absence of assigned penance does not invalidate the confession.

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Should I look for another priest to make a confession?
That's a question only you can answer. I prefer confessors who assign penance, but if I am comfortable with a particular priest otherwise (ie. he gives valuable counsel that helps overcome sin) I wouldn't let the lack of penance stop me from confessing to him. As acadiANNA said, if the priest doesn't give penance you can perform a penitential act of your own choosing.

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A lot of priests here don't give confession. Some don't give confession, and sometimes, since they are so overburdened, I think they just forget.
I imagine that every time you said "confession," you actually meant "penance"...? 
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Maybe its not as bad as it seems...I have been to confession and the transgressions I brought before the priest were absolved and no penance was given, but in the course of our discussion, the priest told me my sins I brought were not mortal. So, I'm thinking, his absolution was for my venial sins which could have been accomplished through many other means including mass, prayer, the Eucharist, which would serve as penance. Reconciliation can still offer sacramental grace even if you are not in the state of mortal sin.
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Strictly speaking, it's not wrong. IIRC the absence of assigned penance does not invalidate the confession.


That's a question only you can answer. I prefer confessors who assign penance, but if I am comfortable with a particular priest otherwise (ie. he gives valuable counsel that helps overcome sin) I wouldn't let the lack of penance stop me from confessing to him. As acadiANNA said, if the priest doesn't give penance you can perform a penitential act of your own choosing.


I imagine that every time you said "confession," you actually meant "penance"...? 
Of course.
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Of course.
Just checking. I don't like to assume anything. 
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Penance is to be given as part of the Sacrament (Canon 981). If he is not imposing a penance - I would look for another Priest.
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Penance is to be given as part of the Sacrament (Canon 981). If he is not imposing a penance - I would look for another Priest.
But then again, a non-trained and certified canon lawyer can only cite Canon Law, and not interpret it, and surely not enforce it. There may be truth to the basic statement that Penance is given as part of the Sacrament, according to CL, but like Constitutional Law, and other Law, CL is not always straight forward, and clearly black and white. That's why there are canon lawyers.

What needs to be remembered about CL, is that it is not designed to just say what is right and what is wrong, to keep the clergy or laity in line, but rather it is to protect the faithful.

So, in this case, Canon 981 "MAY" (I say "may" again, to emphasize that as a non-canon lawyer, I can only speculate on the accepted Church interpretation of the law) reassure the person who received the sacrament without penance of the validity of the sacrament despite the possibility of an unlawful indiscretion of a priest.

In this way, we see the Code of Canon Law protecting one of the faithful, by declaring the validity of a possibly illicit (by incompletion in this case) sacrament, and the opinion of the Church that because of the honest contrition of the individual, they received absolution and the graces offered by the sacrament, and left reconciled with God, no longer in the state of mortal sin.

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he does not impose any penance (at least for me he didn't).
Sin of detraction.
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